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Susan Buxton - John McConnon was killed in the Markham Pit Disaster 1938, he was my brother-in-laws father
Graham Christian - Correction to entries - Timothy Mellors age 52
Kathleen Andrews - My G.G. Grandfather, Thomas Bradley, Died 16 May 1871 Lings Colliery
Brian Edge -Thomas George Davies who is the father of a relative of my wife's. Died at Markham 1957
Mark Poxon - John Robert Seiles died at Clipstone Colliery 1925
Mark Poxon - My 2nd great grand uncle, Samuel Shooter b 1819 Early trade unionist was sacked by the Butterley Company
Brian Sturgess - Name Correction William Woffinden aged 56 better known as Bill - Also my uncle William Sony Foulkes
Barry Clark - Alans Data Base - Gaythorn Bartholomew, Steetley Colliery. The age should read 15




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Susan Buxton
11 May 2013
John McConnon was killed in the Markham Pit Disaster 1938, he was my brother-in-laws father
In Memory

Hi I would just like to say John  McConnon  was  26 years old not 32 when killed in the Markham pit 1938  disaster he was my brother in laws father.
Thank you

Susan Buxton


Thank you Susan, age corrected


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Graham Christian
29 April 2013
Correction to entries - Timothy Mellors age 52
In Memory

Dear Sir

I found your site most interesting as ancestors on my mother’s side  worked in Annesley and Newstead pits, but I found a discrepancy in your site when cross referencing a relative Timothy Mellors as follows

  1. When checking the burials of miners on the Kingsway Old Cemetery site (Kirkby) it states he was 52 yrs this is correct, but states the accident at Kirkby?
  2. When checking the fatalities at Newstead Colliery Timothy Mellors is recorded as 19 yrs? and the date of the inquest is BEFORE he died?

I suspect the year of the inquest has been incorrectly entered and the age is wrong on the Newstead entry. On the Kingsway burials the place of the accident appears to by wrong.  He resided in Kirkby at the address shown on the Newstead site so this may have caused some confusion.

That said it is still a very helpful and interesting site. Thank you.

Graham Christian

- See Also Lancelot Arthur Millership, Newstead Rescue Team C1930 -


Thank you Graham for brining this to our attention. Timothy was 52 when he was run over by tubs on 2nd Oct 1941, he died 30th Jan 1942 and the inquest at Leenside Coroners Court was 3 Feb 1942


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Kathleen Andrews
30 April 2013
My G.G. Grandfather, Thomas Bradley, Died 16 May 1871 Lings Colliery
In Memory

Hello

I've searched for my g.g. grandfather’s death on line and made telephone enquiries to register offices with no luck. Then I found a death of Thomas Bradley 16 May 1871 Lings colliery on your site.  His wife Martha gave birth to my g grandfather 26 Jan 1872 by this time Martha was a widow.

The death of Thomas fits and in the census of 1871  2-3 April the family lived at 9 Lings Row North Wingfield.

How do I find proof of this and were mining deaths not registered as other deaths.

Kind regards

Kathleen Andrews 


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Brian Edge
20 April 2013
Thomas George Davies who is the father of a relative of my wife's. Died at Markham 1957
In Memory

Hi Alan,

I just did a Google search for Thomas George Davies who is the father of a relative of my wife's.

The relative is his son and was only one month old when his father was killed.  As I have been doing family history research for the past 30 years, he asked me to try and find a little more information about his father.  His sick mother is in her early seventies, so he does not really want to discuss it directly with her.

You web site was listed on Google and a search came up with the following entry.

09- Oct -1957

Thomas George Davies

52

Markham

Fall of roof

The date and name match the person I am searching for but the age does not.

He was born on 24 April 1934 in Duckmanton, Derbyshire so could well have worked at Markham Colliery.
His age would have been 23 years, not 52.
I was only told that he died in a mining accident in October 1957, I wasn't told which mine or what type of accident.
I was also told that he swapped shifts with another worker, so should not have normally been on the shift on which he was killed.

Could your listed age be a typo/mistake, could this entry be the same person?
Do you have any other information regarding this person or accident?

Kind regards,
Brian Edge

From:      Sidney Smith 
Sent:       2 Feb 2014
Subject:  I Have Information For Brian Edge About George, That's What He Was Called

We where school mates the same age living in the same village Duckmanton. Could you put Brian in touch with me.

Thanks
Sidney Smith


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Mark Poxon
20 April 2013
John Robert Seiles died at Clipstone Colliery 1925 - Samuel Shooter b 1819 Early trade unionist
In Memory

John Robert Seiles (1885 - 1925)

My cousin's husband has told me that the first man to die at Clipstone Colliery was John Robert Seiles born 1885 Marston, Lincolnshire.  I've been told he died in a "scalding accident" during the sinking of Clipstone Pit in 1925.  I have found a death registration from the Jul-Sep quarter of 1925.

Do you have any details?  Or have any suggestions of a source for more information?


In Memory

Samuel Shooter (1819 - 1889)

My 2nd great grand uncle, Samuel Shooter was one of eleven men sacked by the Butterley Company for organising a strike in 1874

From "History of Nottinghamshire Miners Part 1" by Alan R Griffin:-
"According to the men, there were five points in dispute.  Firstly, the company had taken off a premium of 2d. per ton without consulting the conciliation board [setup in 1873 by the company to settle disputes]; secondly, at Britain Colliery, a new, wider screen had been introduced which "robbed" the men of at least 1 cwt. per ton of coal raised; thirdly, payment for heading and gate ripping had taken off the amount of 4s 6d per yard and upwards; fourthly, the payment of 1s 3d per ton for slack had also been taken off; and finally, the company had started to fill Cannock Chase trucks with the intention of defeating the miners' strike in that district"

The men returned to work on 7 May 1874 "but the eleven committee men who had taken a prominent part in the dispute were .... refused employment"

There is a photograph of the eleven sacked men at the front of Mr Griffin's book.  The same photograph is available on various websites.  Apparently the photograph was used on a postcard that was used to raise money for the men's campaign for reinstatement.

[Samuel had an interesting life:  His mother was Elizabeth Dent born abt 1800 Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  She married William Shooter (a British soldier/miner b abt 1786 Tibshelf, Derbyshire) on 30 June 1819 in the Quebec City Army Garrison shortly before the two sailed for England.  Elizabeth was evidently heavily pregnant at the time of the marriage - Samuel Shooter was born at sea on 6 July 1819.]

I think there have been other Shooters involved with the activity of the Nottinghamshire mining unions - are there any good sources of information?

Regards

__________________________________
Mark Poxon   

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Brian Sturgess
12 April 2013
Name Correction William Woffinden aged 56 better known as Bill - Also my uncle William Sony Foulkes
In Memory

Hello
I came across the site by accident fantastic detail.
A chap who you have listed and requires a correct spelling, he was killed at Manvers Main on the 19/07/1957 his correct name was William Woffinden aged 56 better known as Bill, he is buried at Swinton Church yard with his wife.

I think he was killed by a roof fall, worked with my Dad.

In MemoryAlso I have been looking for my Uncles death. He was always known as Sony Foulkes, so would you list him as William Sony Foulkes. He was killed at Kilnhurst Colliery in December 1956 as a result of a roof fall, a pocket of muck from the roof. He died in Montague Hospital, also buried at Swinton Church yard.

Kilnhurst is about 3-4 miles from Manvers Main.

In MemoryI also noticed the death of my Grandfather William H Sturgess the H stood for Hayes he is listed but the month is left blank, it was infact March 1943 I was two weeks old and therefore never met him, but remarkably he was the spitting image of my eldest son.

I also note one of my direct descendants on my Mothers side died in the Barnsley Oaks Colliery Disaster Dec 1866. He was named Joshua Faulks, you probably notice the surname from William SONY Foulkes I gave you recently, it was In Memoryafter they left Barnsley for Swinton in Yorkshire the name wasstarting to be spelt slightly differently.

The reason my Grandfather worked on the Pit Top was that he was hit by a bullet at Ypres in 1915 across the bridge of his nose, which made breathing difficult.

He was working a double shift one Saturday morning. He is buried at Denaby. Williams Brother was not so lucky at Ypres he received a bullet to the head.

At one stage William, Frederick, Albert all three Brothers plus their Father Edwin Sturgess my Great Grandfather had joined up, the later gave his age as 39 when he was 44 in order to get in.

Three other men were killed with William Hayes Sturgess on the same day with the boiler explosion the 27th March 1943. Pearson, Lunn, and Senior.

Many thanks

Brian

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In MemoryBarry Clark
01 April 2013
Alans Data Base - Gaythorn Bartholomew, Steetley Colliery. The age should read 15

Steetley Colliery. The age should read 15. This was found when researching the Bartholomew family tree

Gaythorn Bartholomew
24, Clumber Place
Worksop

15

11-12-1896

12-12-1896
Golden Ball inn
Worksop

Run Over by tubs

Barry




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