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Don Rhodes - Mining Fatality Details, Johan Winkler Died Woolley Colliery February 1958
Malcolm Grattan - Any Info About Thoresby From 1953 To 1990 Also How Many People Lost Their Lives At Thoresby Colliery
Andrew Brown - Family Tree - North Derbys, any info Bunting, Raynes, Ashmore and Ball, 1840 - 1911
Alistair Hutchinson - Family History - George Arthur Wright Crushed By Wagons Shipley Colliery 1922
Sandra Turner - Arthur Dunbar, died as a result of an accident at Hickleton Main colliery 1945 - Also
Cuthbert Dunbar died as the result of a roof fall at South Kirkby colliery 1902
Steve Wright - Alans Data Base Newstead Fatalities Vic Hawes 1973
David A Bond
- Alans Data Base - L.G Cliff or S G Elliff

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In Memory Don Rhodes
3 Feb 2015
Mining Fatality Details, Johan Winkler Died Woolley Colliery February 1958

I was researching a specific mining death in my village, Woolley Colliery near Barnsley and your website was the first record I found. It enabled me to go on and locate publicity from the time in local newspapers. So thanks very much. Your website really helped.

I am emailing you to inform you of a couple of errors in the record you have. The death was of Johan Winkler aged at Woolley Colliery in February 1958. When I located the death notice from Johan's family, it gave his date of death as 15 Feb 1958, not 05 Feb as you have on the website. Also, Johan was 36, not 37. I am pretty sure the family record will be correct.

Johan was an ethnic German although a Romanian citizen. He was conscripted into the German army in WW2, taken prisoner of war, worked in the Barnsley area as a POW, met and married a local girl and stayed on in Britain to work in the mines. John, as Johan was known, was a very popular and respected man in the village although it was a difficult time to be a German in Britain. That is testament to his own character as well as the humanity of most in mining communities.

Very Best Wishes
Don Rhodes
Howden, East Yorkshire


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Malcolm Grattan
29 Jan 2015

Any Info About Thoresby From 1953 To 1990 Also How Many People Lost Their Lives At Thoresby Colliery.

Any information about Thoresby from 1953 to 1990.

Also could you let me know how many people lost their lives at Thoresby Colliery.

Thank you

Malcolm Grattan


More About Thoresby

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More on Thoresby - Chris Sampson


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Andrew Brown
29 Jan 2015
Family Tree - North Derbyshire, any info on the surnames Bunting, Raynes, Ashmore and Ball

Hello my name is Andrew Brown I am researching my family tree which originates from North Derbyshire. Could you help with any info on the surnames Bunting, Raynes, Ashmore and Ball. Most of which were miners in the region.

Dates from about 1840 through to 1911. If you require any more info please email me. Sorry for the rushed correspondence!! I've got to go to work

Kind regards

Andrew Brown.

Ps,
Great website!

Sent from my iPad


You need to search through the Derbyshire Fatalities Section and possibly Yorkshire

E.g.

10 - Oct - 1857 - W, Bunting, age 30 - Colliery Ripley - Cause, Explosion of methane
22 - Aug - 1881 - William Bunting, age 36 - Colliery Wingerworth No 6 - Cause, Fall of coal
06 - Feb - 1919 - John James Bunting, age 22 - Colliery Tibshelf - Cause, Fall of roof

09 - Jul - 1957 - Alan Raynes, age 22 - Colliery Glapwell, - Cause, Fall of roof

11 - Jun - 1861 - John Ashmore, age 13 - Colliery Clay Cross No 2 - Cause, Inrush of water
11 - Jun - 1861 - Samuel Ashmore, age 21 - Colliery Clay Cross No 2 - Cause, Inrush of water
13 - Feb - 1869 - John Ashmore, age 56 - Colliery, Axedge - Cause, run over by tubs
31 - Jul - 1897 - Fred Ashmore, age 35 - Colliery, Glapwell - Cause, Fall of roof


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In MemoryAlistair Hutchinson
18 Jan 2015
Family History - George Arthur Wright Crushed By Wagons Shipley Colliery 1922

Dear Alan
I am doing some family history and would like to find out some more details of my Great Grandfather s death at Shipley Colliery which is listed on your website as:

9-Jan-1922 George Arthur Wright 48 Shipley Crushed by wagons on surface.

I have found an article in the Nottingham Evening Post dated Monday Jan 23rd 1922 giving some details from the inquest but wondered if a more detailed account exists and if so where I might search for it.

I remember my Grandfather giving a moving talk on his 80th birthday about how as a young man of 21 he was called to his father s bedside after the accident, and how after his father s death he had to take over as the head of the house.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards

The Nottingham Evening Post, Monday, January 23, 1922

"TO THE DRESSING STATION!"

FATALLY INJURED SHUNTER’S ORDER TO DRIVER

SAD SHIPLEY COLLIERY CASE.

Mr A. N. Whiston, coroner, held an inquest at Ilkeston Hospital today, on George Arthur Wright, who died in the hospital on Thursday last. Mr W. S. T. Hantley, H.M. Inspector of Mines, was present and Mr R. H. Ferens, manager, represented the Shipley Colliery Company.

George Wright of 83 Nottingham Road, Ilkeston, clerk said deceased was his father, and was a foreman shunter employed at Shipley Colliery. He was 46 years of age. He met with an accident on January 10th, whilst at work, and witness saw him in the hospital the same afternoon. His father told him they were shunting some full wagons of coal on the Nutbrook sidings, and he was struck by the locomotive and knocked under the wheel of the last wagon of a train just released.

Harry Garley, an engine driver at Shipley Collieries, said that on January 10th, at 8 a.m., he was in charge of an engine, and had been down the G.N. No. 2 for more waggons. Deceased gave him the signal to go. Then he heard a shout from his guard. When deceased gave him the signal he was standing between No. 5 Midland and No. 2 G.N. He appeared to stand clear of the engine. When he heard his guard shout witness at once applied the brake. They got deceased on the engine and ran him to the dressing station. Deceased practically jumped on the engine himself, saying “Dressing Station; my arms off”.

CAUGHT BY THE ENGINE

Frank Latham, 87 Loscoe Road, Heanor, said he was a shunter at Shipley Collieries. On January 10th he was with the last witness when the accident happened. Deceased had given the signal for them to proceed, standing with his back to them at the time. He was standing in the centre of the six-foot, and was clear a few seconds before they reached him. He then appeared to be leaning forward, when the corner of the engine frame caught him at the back of the left shoulder. It flung him round and he fell downwards.

Dr. J. J. Tobin said he saw deceased on admission to hospital. He was examined with the X-Rays. The injuries were a fracture to the left shoulder joint, the upper arm being smashed, including the collar bone and shoulder blade. The forearm showed a compound fracture of both bones of the forearm. He was suffering so severely from shock that amputation could not be carried out at once. He continued in a critical condition, and on the day he died witness amputated the forearm, the easier operation of the two. Wright lived about three hours after the operation.

The cause of death was shock, as a result of the injuries. But for the operation the deceased would have died from septic poisoning.

The Coroner said it was a very sad death, but there could be no doubt it was purely accidental, and no blame whatever was attached to the driver of the locomotive. His verdict would therefore be one of “Accidental death.”
Mr Ferens, on behalf of the Shipley Colliery Co., expressed sympathy with deceased’s widow and family.


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In MemorySandra Turner
14 Jan 2015
Arthur Dunbar, died as a result of an accident at Hickleton Main colliery 1945 - Also
Cuthbert Dunbar died as the result of a roof fall at South Kirkby colliery 1902

My grandfather, Arthur Dunbar, died as a result of an accident at Hickleton Main colliery. I don't know the date of the accident but it was sometime early July 1945.

He had surgery to his hand, probably at Mexborough hospital, and died on Friday 13th July 1945. His name is on the recently erected Hickleton Colliery memorial in Thurnscoe cemetery, but his age was put as 50 years old, whereas he was a few weeks short of 47 years old.
Unfortunately I never knew him, arriving myself in 1949.

My great-grandfather died in 1902 following a roof fall at South Kirkby colliery a couple of days earlier.

His name was Cuthbert Dunbar and came to South Yorkshire (which was the West Riding of course) in the late 1870's from the Northumberland area.

The family appear in the 1881 census, living in Darfield or Thurnscoe, if I remember right. The fact that he was from the North East was mentioned in newspaper coverage of his death.

Funny thing about his death is that he was deemed to have recovered and was due to go home on the 13th, but took ill while still in hospital and died. I think perhaps complications of crush injuries were not understood, and he got kidney failure.....or blood poisoning.... but he seemed to know, as he passed something on to a fellow patient the night before to give to his wife (my grandma). When the other chap said he'd be able to give it to her himself, he answered negatively. It is nice to see that his name is on the records...

Sandra Turner


 Sandra


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In MemorySteve Wright
9 Jan 2015
Alans Data Base Newstead Fatalities Vic Hawes 1973

Hello Alan
I met Bob Bradley only this week who gave me details of the excellent web site of “Healey Hero”. I have just started browsing and found your list of fatalities.

Re your fatalities database, Newstead Fatalities Vic Hawes 1973

Vic was crushed by moving mine cars in the pit bottom. I was assistant undermanager at the time, later undermanager, and we were all shocked by Vic’s death. The mine cars all gravitated on the pit bottom circuit, ran very quietly, and didn’t have projecting buffers, resulting in his death when trapped between two cars.

Will let you know if I find any more, I became manager at several Notts pits and finished in 1995.

Which colliery were you at? I am sure that I remember you from somewhere.

Best wishes

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In MemoryDavid A Bond
29 Dec 2014
Alans Data Base - L.G Cliff or S G Elliff

Hello Alan.
First of all, may I congratulate you on a splendid and informative website and database.

I can see its going to be a continuous source of information in my quest to trace my ancestors.

During my research, it has become apparent, that many of my ancestors were miners, many of them working at Grimethorpe.

One of my ancestors, Samuel George Elliff, born in 1905 is one of the odd ones out, living in Grimethorpe, but working at Bentley.

Sadly, on the 11th of December, 1925, Samuel was killed in an accident whilst working at Bentley.
The records available on line with Ancestry, don t give circumstances of his death.

Wishing to find the details of the accident, I was directed to your website and database.
The problem I have, that I was unable to trace him.

There is, however, a record of death for a man recorded as L.G Cliff aged 21, working at Bentley, crushed by tubs on the 11th of December 1925. Could this be my cousin? Have his original details been transcribed incorrectly.

May I respectfully request, that you revisit the original record and check if they were right or wrong, and confirm if Mr Cliff, is actually my cousin, Samuel George Elliff.

Thanks in anticipation, and again, thank you for an excellent source of mining information.

I have attached a photo of the family grave at Grimethorpe.

Also I have started to look at Sam s in laws today, and found from the census, many were miners. Once I have got them all together, I will be returning to your site for further research. Already, I have noticed that some died rather young.

Should I come across any burial places or photos of the individuals, I will pass them on to you.

Although not directly involved in the mining industry, I am immensely proud of my mining ancestors.

Best regards