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A Comprehensive History Of Mining In The Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire And Leicestershire Coalfields - Page 24

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Tracey Waters - My 2 x Great Granddad Edward Gill was apparently killed in an accident at Unstone Colliery
J. Darley - Looking For The NCB Paint Codes For Yellow And Blue
Maurice Dawson - Miner’s Lamp to Commemorate Thoresby Colliery Baths Ceremony 1949
Richard Waldron - Mining Injury, My Great Grand Father John Alvien Waldron Who Worked At Gedling
Jeff Donson - Any Information About Denby Hall Pit Near Ripley Derbyshire
Susan Meakin - Looking For Info About My Great Grandfather James Birch, Ostler, Brookhill Colliery?
Trevor Negus - Would Police Enquiries be made underground into deaths at Nottinghamshire mines?

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In MemoryTracey Waters
25 Jan 2016
My 2 x Great Granddad Edward Gill was apparently killed in an accident at Unstone Colliery

Hello. I’ve just come across your site whilst looking for information about Unstone Silkstone colliery. My 2 x great granddad Edward Gill was apparently killed in an accident there in Dec 1882 he was crushed between a post and a shunting cart as he was unhitching a horse from a cart. I wanted to find out about the place he was killed and where he might be buried. I know his family came from Unstone.

I know a little bit about Edward from my research. He was born in Unstone, his dad was Samuel Gill, a file manufacture. I guess he made files. Edward seems to have liked horses how ironic he was killed because of one. He started out apprenticed to a carter. Then became a hawker after he married Eliza Calladine, my gypsy great, great granny.

Eliza’s family were earthenware dealers. Edward and Eliza only stayed together for a couple of years, then they split up. Eliza married William Johnson in 1884, in Newbold.

Eliza's sister, Elizabeth, married Elijah Hallam a coal miner born Feb 22, 1849. In 1870 Elizabeth and Elijah were residing at Narrow Lane in Chesterfield.

MedalFive years later, while Elijah was working at Albert Colliery, Newbold cum Dunston, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, Elijah saved a number of miners trapped in a smashed pit cage in an accident. He was one of the first two recipients of the Life Saving Medal of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem. Frederick Vickers, who also helped in the rescue, was the other recipient at the first award ceremony.

Meanwhile, in 1881, Edward, who was a bit of a naughty chap, was a Colliery Labourer living at 6 Craven Row, Nether Green, Unstone. He was in another relationship, bigamously married to Sarah Ann.

He was killed in 1882 in a colliery accident he was crushed between 2 shunting carts. The inquest report was interesting.

Thanks so much Tracey

Derbyshire Times.
Saturday 16th. December 1882.

Page 1 Col. 4. (Third Edition).
Unstone - Fatal Colliery Accident.

Last evening Edward Gill, aged 43, of Unstone Green, was killed at the Unstone Silkstone Colliery whilst shunting some wagons. He was unhooking a horse from a wagon, and got crushed between a post and a wagon. He was taken home, and died shortly after his arrival. Mr. Congdon, assistant doctor, attended him.

Derbyshire Times.
Wednesday 20th December 1882.

Page 3 Col. 6.
Strange Scene at an Inquest at Unstone.

On Monday afternoon an inquest was held by Mr. Spofforth, deputy coroner, at the Fleur-de-Lis Inn, on the body of Edward Gill, who died on Friday from injuries received whilst shunting wagons at the Unstone Silkstone Colliery. After hearing the evidence touching the death of deceased, the jury returned a verdict of "Accidental Death".

A contemporary says: -

The enquiry before its close was rendered of special interest by the appearance of a woman named Eliza Gill, who claimed to be the wife of deceased, Edward Gill, to whom she alleged she was married at Chesterfield in the year 1870, and in proof of which she produced the marriage certificate. This unexpected claim on the part of Eliza Gill was seen for a time to have a stunning effect on a second wife of deceased, Sarah Ann Gill, who, after she had recovered from the nervous confused state to which she had been thrown, proceeded to give the necessary proof that she had been married to deceased 2 years and 10 months ago at Sutton-in-Ashfield, in proof of which she also produced the necessary legal document, exciting no little surprise by confessing that she had another husband living in Sheffield when she married Gill. The deceased at the time of his death furnished a house in Unstone Green, and was in an insurance society, and also a club in the colliery where he worked, and the question of the disposal of the effects formed the subject of an interesting discussion. Eliza, the first wife of the deceased, asked a special favour that she might have a pawn ticket for a watch ????? given to her, and further expressed a wish to be permitted to sleep in the house of the deceased the last night before his internment. Sarah Ann, the second wife did not object, whilst the jury was from time to time excited to laughter but the affectionate terms of "Dear", "My Dear", and "Yes, Love", used by the rival wives in addressing each other. It was ultimately arranged, at the suggestion of the coroner, that Mr. Fisher, colliery manager, and police constable Byrne should discharge the expenses connected with the funeral of deceased, and the residue to be hereafter equally divided between the two wives.

The Funeral.

The remains of the unfortunate man were interred on Tuesday afternoon in the new cemetery, at Dronfield, in the presence of a large concourse of spectators. The deceased was followed to his grave but his two widows - Eliza Gill and Sarah Ann Gill. Eliza walked first in the ????? of the procession, as chief mourner, with her son, a fine looking boy of thirteen years, the issue of Eliza's marriage with the deceased. The next in the following was Sarah Ann, the second wife, who leaned upon the arm of Mrs. Gill, deceased's mother, the rest of the procession being his relatives. Both his widow's manifested much grief.

Information from - Derbyshire Times Archive


As you can see there were 2 collieries with the same name, one closed in 1874 near Apperknowle and the other near Unstone Green in 1885.

However I would suggest that the one at Unstone Green is the colliery you are looking for because it was working at the time of the accident in Dec 1882.......
Probably there is a church / cemetery nearby.

Trusting this information will assist you in your quest.

Regards
Bob Bradley


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J. Darley
21 Jan 2016
Looking For The NCB Paint Codes For Yellow And Blue
Hi
I'm looking for the NCB paint codes for yellow and blue.
Hope you can help.
J. Darley

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Maurice Dawson
18 Jan 2016
Miner’s Lamp to Commemorate Thoresby Colliery Baths Ceremony 1949
I wonder if you can help me. I have in my collection, a miner’s lamp with a brass plate fixed to the bonnet. It has on it Thoresby colliery Pithead baths opening ceremony 1949. Can you tell me anything about the ceremony and do any reports or photographs exist?

Regards,
Maurice

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Good morning Fionn, Thank you so much. This is the first information I've had about the baths and it's great to have these facts. I will leave things just as you've arranged them and keep my fingers crossed for more and, perhaps, a photograph of the occasion.

I'm one of the three who formed and run The Miners Lamp Society and with the gradual accumulation of information, I hope eventually to be able to write an article for one of our Gazettes.

This is the photograph of an iron panel in Art Deco style which I bought from eBay recently. It is about 32 inches wide and 20 inches high. When I paid, the vendor told me that he had seven more and that they had originally come from Clifton Colliery, Nottingham. I immediately bought all of them. I've contacted Nottingham and also Nottinghamshire archives but they can't help. Do you have any information or advice? Kind regards, Maurice.

Maurice


Not very often I really get stuck but regarding your query I have not got a clue. Maybe putting an article in the newspaper, the Nottingham Post, you can contact them through Google, send them a photo. There is a column for such as your query and they generally welcome them. They also publish a monthly 'Bygones' Supplement.

Clifton pit in Nottingham closed in July 1968 after 100 years of production.
If you do not get any joy I would try the other Clifton pit in Lancashire as you suggested. It was sunk in 1872 and closed in December 1955.

However there was also another Clifton pit in Cumberland where 3 different dates of sinking are recorded....1....1860, ...2...1915 and 3...1944, the latter 2 possibly shaft deepenings and that pit closed in February 1959.

I am only sorry I cannot help further
Regards 
Bob Bradley


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Richard Waldron
9 Jan 2016
Mining Injury, My Great Grand Father John Alvien Waldron Who Worked At Gedling
Hi,

I've been researching my family history for around 20 yrs and produced a book but continue to keep digging. I've been trying to locate any information on my Great Grand Father John Alvien Waldron who worked at Gedling in the 20s and suffered an injury in around 1928-1929 and wondered if any information about him exists in the archives?

Best wishes

Richard

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This is the extract from my book which relates and may be of some use?

John remained in Nottingham for around 15 months and continued to pay maintenance to Ethel as agreed in court. He may also have maintained contact with his son Eric during this time. At some point John had an accident at work which his employers were liable for and paid him compensation. It was likely to have happened at Gedling colliery where lots of mining accidents occurred and it was a place he had worked in the past.  In August 1929 John stopped paying maintenance for a month and Ethel issued a writ against him for non-payment. This was reported in the Nottingham Advertiser on 29th September…

'Precipitous Wife'

That the wife had been somewhat of a hurry in taking out a warrant against her husband for maintenance was the suggestion made by Mr. Frank Clayton at the Nottingham Shire Hall last Saturday, when John Alvien, of Nottingham, was brought before the magistrates for a debt of £2, being four weeks’ arrears under the maintenance order.

The wife was Ethel Alberta Waldron of 183, Colwick Vale, and said Mr. Clayton, the order was for 10s. per week made by consent of the husband because he was receiving compensation at the rate of 30s. per week.

He was totally unable to work now. On August 10th he received a notice that his employers intended making application to reduce the amount of the compensation. It was part of the regulations that the amount could not be reduced until the medical referee had been appointed and given a decision, but in the meantime the employers had to pay the full compensation into court. Until the case was heard Alvien would not be able to draw any money, but the wife had taken out this warrant, and it seemed to him that she was being a little hard.

Asked how he was existing Alvien said that he was living ‘on his mother’, who was 80 years of age.

The court was adjourned for one month, the husband promising that if he received the arrears of compensation he would pay his wife immediately.’

Richard


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Jeff Donson
7 Jan 2016
Any Information About Denby Hall Pit Near Ripley Derbyshire
Hi I worked at Denby Hall Pit in the 50s 60s have you any pics and history on it?

Thanks
JD


Hi Jeff Click here for some information about Denby Hall Pit


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Susan Meakin
27 Dec 2015
James Birch

Hi I came across your site whilst looking for information on my great grandfather James Birch. He retired after 62 years of service at Brookhill Colliery Derbyshire as an Ostler.

I was told he received an award for his long service to the industry, do you know where I could find out if he did indeed receive an award?

Also I presume the photo on your site is of James but I can't zoom in to see, could you tell me where I could get a copy of this photo please?

Thank You.
Kind Regards.
Susan Meakin.

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Trevor Negus
27 Dec 2015
Would Police Enquiries be made underground into deaths at Nottinghamshire mines?

I am currently writing a novel and need your assistance please.

I am trying to ascertain if Detective Police Officers would ever go underground at Collieries in the Nottinghamshire coal field of the early eighties to make enquiries into accidental deaths?

Maybe alongside Mines Rescue or Mines Inspectorate?

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

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