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William Lord - Lord and Starbuck Families

  From: William Lord
11 Oct 2009
Lord and Starbuck Families

Really enjoyed your website which I found after a Yahoo search on High Park, Moorgreen and Underwood. I wanted to do the search because I was born in New Eastwood in 1938 (a graduate of the "Tin-Tack" elementary school) and both sides of my family (Lords and Starbucks) were involved in the local mining and brick making industries.

A school class photo - looks like the "Tin Tack" school in the background!!

The twins with their Aunt Sarah. James Lord and John Lord worked at High Park pit when they were both 14 and later at the brickyard in New Eastwood.

I thought you might like a transcript of my father's and twin brother's (Jim and John Lord) reminiscences about their mining days which they wrote to me not long before they passed on in the 1980's.

I should mention that some of my earliest memories are of dad coming home covered in coal dust and Mum helping to bathe him in a tin tub on the kitchen floor (we lived on Main Street then just above the cemetery gates) - and of course seeing the "Tin Tack" school go up in flames from my bedroom window!

Although the discussion of brick making may seem a little odd - I am sure you are aware that coal and bricks seemed to go together in those days - with the gentry owning both at the same time!! I know of no other families that had such an intimate relationship with both industries.

Dad's Letter Dated 26- Oct -1984.

"I was most interested in the papers on Lawrence and the Eastwood area. They brought back quite a few memories of our young days, especially the early 20's when Uncle John and I worked down High Park pit.

I started there in Feb. 1919 and John at Easter the same year. At that time Barber, Walker had 5 pits in that area all connected by an internal railway, Underwood, Brinsley, Moorgreen, High Park and Watnall. They ran what was called a Paddy train to take the men to the various pits and we used to walk to Moorgreen, some 2 miles from home, to catch the train to High Park at 6 AM, which meant leaving the house at 5:30 AM.

A  Leivers family outing in front of DHL's birthplace. My Aunt Evelyn is standing on the step and her sister and mother are seated in the carriage.
When we got to High Park we used to go down the pit into the stables and have a bit of a snooze until starting time at 7 AM, then take our ponies out ready for bringing the coal tubs to the rope haulage from the coal face.

I can still vividly recall my first sight of the coal face. The seam was only 2'-4" thick and to see the colliers
crawling into the seam with just candles for lighting was a rather frightening experience at first, but we soon got used to it, in fact when they made me the surveyors assistant I had to crawl all over the various faces myself, and many a whack across the bum I've had as I crawled past the shovelling miners.  Happy days indeed!!

Grandad (William John) Starbuck was born in Cropwell Bishop, a small farming village in Notts near the Vale of Belvoir. He came to New Eastwood

in the late 1880's and worked as a stoker at the pit, then became engine winder at High Park until 1927 when he moved to Pinxton first as engine winder at the pit then working the coke ovens until he retired and returned to Eastwood. My grandad worked for a Leeds firm and travelled around installing brick plants in various locations.

My dad (John William Lord) was born in Nottingham, but they moved around as and when grandad's work required it. As a young man dad worked at brickworks in Elstree in Hertfordshire, Tredygar in Wales, then Spinkhill in North Derbyshire, where he met your grandma, married and came to New Eastwood to manage the two brickworks there until he retired in 1948. He died in 1949 at 72 years of age.

There were 7 in our family, 4 boys and 3 girls. We all left school at 13 years of age. Uncle Harry, like me, started at the brickworks and remained there all his working life.

Uncle Arthur started as a boy porter on the railway then joined the navy at 15 years of age, rising to Petty Officer then to First Officer in charge of a gunboat in the Persian Gulf during the war. After the war he transferred to the Indian Navy retiring from it when India became independent. He took a hotel on the Isle of Wight for a while then retired to Southsea. He died last year. His first wife was killed when Plymouth was bombed, along with her mother leaving three children.

Uncle John started work as a stable boy at Bentley's Mill; a flour mill on the river Erewash, then when he was 14 joined me at High Park pit. After working at 3 pits in the area we both ended up working at the brickworks for grandad Lord,a very hard taskmaster who thought his sons should set an example and work twice as hard as anyone else!! I eventually went into brickworks management in Belfast and, as you know, stayed in it until retirement, apart from 3 years in the pit during the war.

Mr. and Mrs. John Lord outside their house (just opposite the "Tin Tack" school. Mr. Lord managed the brickyard in New Eastwood.

Uncle John went to work for the Forestry Commission in Derbyshire, then up at Fort William and finally to Bucknall, where after a couple of years on a bread round, he joined the Water Board.

Grandma Starbuck had 9 children, 4 boys and 5 girls. All the lads worked at the pit with Syd being the only one never to go down the mine. One enlisted in the first war and was killed in Mesopotamia in 1915. The two eldest spent their working lives in the pit and Syd finished up working for the Council in the cemetery. I don't know where the girls worked, apart from your Mum who was a mender at Wolseys factory in Kimberley, mending faulty stockings."

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Uncle John's letter dated 21-10-1984.

"Taking our family first I have always understood that grandad Lord was born in Nottingham in 1880. Grandma Lord was born at Killamarsh near Sheffield. She was a Godber.

Grandad Lord's parents we never knew, they were both dead before we appeared and lie in Calow churchyard near Chesterfield. Great Grandad was a brickmaker, so was Grandad, so was your dad and Frank carries on the tradition. Four generations of brickmakers.

Grandad Lord was at the building of the Cowburn Tunnel in the Peak, near Edale and my dad often regaled us with stories from his boyhood up there.

When he married he got the manager's job at Stoneyford brickyard then graduated to the two at new Eastwood. In the Erewash Valley at that time were three yards, in quite a short distance. They were called Egypt, Canada and Klondyke. Egypt was derelict but the other two kept going until quite recently and were managed by Grandad. We all worked there at varying times.

Cowburn Tunnel

Mr. and Mrs. William Starbuck with their youngest son Sydney walking in their Sunday best in Eastwood. Mr. Starbuck was engine winder at
High Park and Pinxton pits for many years.

Aunty Evelyn's grandparents founded the Leivers Livery Stables in Victoria Street and D.H.L. was born next door to them. Evelyn's parents lived opposite and her Dad worked at the family business until the advent of cars. He wasn't interested in cars so he became a carter with the old LNER at Eastwood station. She had a married sister, Mrs. Thorp who, with her husband, then ran the business. Old lady Leivers died a week after we got married. She was 91. The year 1931. Her husband died in 1916. There were only the two children. The business is mentioned briefly in Lawrence's "Women in Love".

Evelyn's dad died in 1963. He was 79, Her mother died at home in November 1972. She was 90.

She was a member of the widely known Templeman clan, the last of whom still lives in Ava, Missouri.

Actually Evelyn's dad was born at Halam, a small village near Newark. Her mother of course is of Giltbrook stock.
Mr. Leivers was with the railway  long-service medal from them. After Evelyn died I sent it to the Railway Museum at York. They were quite pleased to have it."

Really hope that this may be of some interest to your website readers.

A funeral procession at the bottom entrance to the cemetery - Leivers Livery took part in such events.

Kindest Regards,
Bill Lord.

Fort Walton Beach, FL.

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