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Sept 1950 -Those Who Died

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John Edwin Oliver

Graham Sykes - Why is my Grandfather John Edwin Oliver missing from the memorial at Elmton Church
Allie Hill - Who Did The Cresswell Pit Check Belonged To?
Allie Hill
- Writing a novel, Radio Derby put me in touch with someone related to 'John Edwin Oliver' but who?
Garry Fell - John Edwin Oliver - Creswell Mine Disaster 1950




From:    Graham Sykes
Sent:     20 June 2011
Subject: Why is my Grandfather John Edwin Oliver missing from the memorial at Elmton Church

Hi I notice that Allie Hill is asking on the forum about my Grandfather John Edwin Oliver who was one of the last two men whose bodies were brought out of the Creswell Colliery Disaster. 

I recently visited Creswell with my mother Edith (daughter of John and my Grandma, also called Edith) along with my Uncle Cyril their second eldest.  Cyril is now 87 years old.

It was very moving to listen to them reminisce about the grandfather I never met but there was also upset when we realised that my grandfather and one other had their names missing from the memorial at Elmton Church http://www.dmm-pitwork.org.uk/html/creswell.htm .  Can anyone enlighten me please as to why that might be, so that I can let them know.

The policeman mentioned is my uncle (the eldest) whose name is John and is still alive living near Brighton.

Thanks

Graham Sykes



See Garry Fell's comments below:- John Edward Oliver is in fact John Edwin Oliver, he was one of the last two men to be recovered from the mine


 

From: Allie Hill
Sent: 27 July 2010
Subject: Who Did The Cresswell Pit Check Belonged To?


Hello again Fionn,
I hope you don't mind me contacting you again, but I wondered if you knew whether or not I would be able to find out who a particular miner's pit check belonged to ?

I won one on ebay, it's from Creswell Colliery and has a number on it. I would love to find out whose it was, but have no idea where to start. Any ideas?

Cheers
Allie Hill



From: Allie Hill
Sent: 30 June 2010
Subject: Writing a novel, Radio Derby put me in touch with someone but who??
Hello Fionn,
You may remember me contacting you a few months ago regarding Kilburn Pit, for research on a novel I am writing.

I have been on Radio Derby, and had a good response to an appeal for information!

My next bit of research involves the disaster at Creswell Colliery in 1950, and as it is coming up for 60 years in September since the disaster, I thought the Derby Evening Telegraph may be interested in running a story on my behalf.

Luckily they were, and again I have had a good response. But here is my reason for contacting you again:-

I don't know how familiar you are with the Creswell disaster; I know it features on your site, because that is where I obtained a lot of the information from in the first place. But anyway it was almost a year before they were able to retrieve the last six bodies from out of the pit.

This is the part that will feature in my novel, but I wanted to try and speak to anyone who may have been involved in the disaster either rescued or a rescuer.

To my surprise, I had a letter from 'someone' last week whose grandfather was one of the six! (which is brilliant) but whoever this person is, they have given me a bit of information, but unfortunately, not said who they are or left any contact details!

The grandfather was 'John Edwin Oliver' he was 53. And this person that has written to me remembers the day that the local police constable came to tell his/her gran of the news that her husband - one of the final six - had been retrieved. Now amazingly the policeman was also the son of this chap 'John Edwin Oliver', and father of the person who has wrote to me! Confused???? I am!!!

So anyway, I could really do with speaking to this person, and I wondered if you may have any ideas of how I can find out who it is????

I hope I haven't blown your mind with information here, and don't worry if you can't help.

Kind regards

Allie Hill


Lynne Crummack, from Normanton West Yorkshire, contacted me in October 2008. She is Writing a Creswell memorial book, she was starting after Christmas 2008 and asked anyone with memories to get in touch with her, her email address at the time is on the site,


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From: Garry Fell
Sent: 19 May 2009
Subject:
John Edwin Oliver - Creswell Mine Disaster 1950

Dear sir
I am emailing you so that you may be able to update your records on one of the men killed in the disaster, John Edward Oliver is in fact John Edwin Oliver, he was one of the last two men to be recovered from the mine, I am John's great nephew and am in touch with John's son whom also is John to try to find a photograph, so as it can be put with the other men's who perished, and he will no longer be just a name for anyone using your site.

According to my mother, Johns niece, John and Carey Thorp were found standing at the bottom of a ramp not far from the steel fire door and they were brought out of the mine in steel coffins to preserve their remains as they were in a state of very good preservation and the mines team did not want the air to get to them.

I will mail you again as soon as I have a photo.

Is there anyway that I can verify the facts about John and Carey's deaths and the matter of how they were found?

Yours

Mr Garry Fell.

 


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