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Safety Lamps - DO NOT USE PETROL

Some Tips

Fuel Oil **

I think we might be able to fuel our safety lamps with B&Q outdoor torch and lantern oil. I have tried it in my own flame safety lamp and it burns very much like naphtha, smokeless, no fumes and it lasts as long as naphtha about 10hrs for every filling.

You need to start by putting a drop of lighter fluid on the wick initially then light the lamp with the striker it will burn ok; this must be done when you light the lamp.

Regards Beamish Deputy


Fuel Oil **

From: Wylie Cayote (Bill)

Hi
Just been having a look at your pages regarding protector lamps and the type of fuel to use.

I have a Type 6 and a GR6S. These two lamps run very well on Methylated Spirit. They both light first time with the built in striker as well, so no need to dismantle and soak the wick in lighter petrol as suggested. There is also the benefit of having no fumes or smoke as can sometimes happen with paraffin.

Meths is only £1.99ukp for 500mls at our local hardware store.

Maybe this information will be of assistance to others ?

Cheers
~Bob~


Spark

Some Tips
From Brain Robinson **

DO NOT USE PETROL

Paraffin can be used BUT only in imitation or ornamental lamps that are designed for it, they normally have no gauzes and it should say on the bottom of these lamps that they are only to be run on paraffin.
Paraffin is obviously more available, but gives a less luminous flame, and can be smoky (unless you use Esso Blue, remember the old TV ad?).

On a full vessel, a lamp should last around 10 hours on a medium flame, or maybe 20 hours on a low flame.

For a Protector lamp Colzaline is the official stuff, more timely they use a solvent based stuff, called Sovent 40. I will try to get more details to you later, but you should be able to order through your local oil central heating supplier, you should get a gallon (lasts long, long time) for about £25. A gallon in small lighter fuel tins = £150 or more.

Lighter fuel is very similar to lamp spirit, that's why countless miners used to fill their cigarette lighters in the lamproom!!! (It must have cost the colliery a fortune).

Southern Refining were the manufacturers of the Solvent 20 modern equivalent, at the time they were supplying small mines in Wales.

I was kind of an unofficial dealer for them about 5 years ago, but not many folk want lamp oil now.
Colzaline is a slightly heavier oil than the solvent, and as such could be a little more difficult to light with re-lighter.

On a gallon tin, the label is;
SAFSOL 2 (contains heptane)
UN 1206
EC 205 - 563 - 8
There is always the chance they may have closed down but if not Protectors phone & fax numbers are 0161 789 3013 fax, 787 8257, ask for David Mather, I was kind of an unofficial dealer for them about 5 years ago, but not many folk want lamps nowor the contents of any pages referenced by an external link.


C) Fuel in France pretty much all the DIY stores (bricolages) over here sell "Essence C", as a de-greaser and/or general purpose cleaning solvent. It is napthpha by any other name - see http://www.ultralight-hiking.com/fuelnames.html for more info. It is pretty cheap as well. I dunno how UK residents would get it across the channel however _ I should think that the ferry companies wouldn't like it too much.

D) GR6S :- Type 6 Lamp with a (c. 1964) gas tester. The S is a further modification indicating a stainless steel wick holder, the original brass one not being resistant enough to burn-erosion.

Bill Parker


Fuel Oil **

I use Coleman fuel, it is just like lighter fuel in the way it smells like and behaves just like fuel from the lamp room. It is easy to obtain especially at the more specialist outdoor shops, it is made for Coleman cooking stoves and lanterns and comes in 500ml tins so will fill a lamp for a week. Well worth a look as it is exactly the same in smell too.

Reading through your site with interest, I live in south Wales & worked under ground at Bedwas Deep Navigation, Lewis Merthyr

All the best
Alan


Wicks
From Ross Currie

Good to hear from you again. Regarding wicks for flame safety lamps, it depends on the size and also whether it is a round or flat wick. Flat wicks about 1/2" wide are easily enough obtained from small independent hardware stores I find but I have never tried to obtain round wicks.

The best recommendations I can come up with for places to try are: hardware stores, camping/outdoor stores, marine stores/ships chandlers, although since most things outdoor and marine tend to be gas now even this may be a long shot!

I have found a supplier of flat wicks on eBay - they have the full range of sizes, all flat though, no round. They do however say that they can obtain all types or wicks. I used to use JMW Limited in Harlow, Essex but I don't think they have supplied flame safety lamps for quite some time now. I've just ordered some 1" wicks from eBay, (Sept 2010) two 8" lengths for £0.99, postage £1.00 - I'll let you know how it pans out and you might be able to suggest them as a supplier of wicks.

The Calibration House
Perry Road
Harlow
Essex
CM18 7NR
United Kingdom
http://www.jmwlimited.co.uk/

Hope the above is of some use - give me a shout if you need any more info.
Regards,
Ross Currie


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Sent:
Subject:
Ray Turnor
07 August 2004
How do you lite a Davey Lamp?
 

How to Lite A Davey Lamp

Ray Turnor was wondering how he could lite a Davey Lamp:-
A friend of mine has got a Davey lamp, but we can't figure out how to fill it up! It seems that there is a round adapter type thingy under the base, if so what did it connect too?
All I can tell you about the lamp is:-
* The Wolf Safety Co (W.M.Maurice Ltd Sheffield)
* Wolf type FG M&Q safety lamps
* APP No B2-222

James Findley Replies;-

I think the round adapter thing on the bottom of the safety lamp will in fact be the adjuster for the size of flame.
We hardly ever took lamps in to the pit with us (only when the inspector was coming and then there was a mad rush to find a lamp by the deputys !)

The man that used to monitor the shaft pumps and fan used to service the lamps, he had a special tool to open the lamps. It was simple enough to open them without it however. On the ones I have see (the protector type) there will be a small lever on the side of the base this prevents the base from turning. To pull the lever out of the way requires a magnet. The lever has two pins, one to pivot on and one to lock the lever in place. Place the magnet under the locking pin and slowly pull the magnet down (pulling the pin with it) and then you should be able to pull the lever out of the way and unscrew the base enabling it to be filled up.

A good tip to light the lamp is to swing the lamp with one arm and then to blow into the top holes (you exhale about 16 % oxygen so it helps). A good hard push with the lighter and it should light up. As is the case the lamp lights up ok at bank but will not underground ! I hope it helps.



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